Police shootings! What are the FBI statistics? Oops!

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We discovered this surprising article in the Wall Street Journal. It just scratches the surface on the amount of police killings nationwide. In fact, even if all agencies were to report all officer involved killings, victims like Daren Borges wouldn’t even be considered since he died in the custody of the jail. According to the article, “753 police entities reported about 2,400 killings by police” since 2007. That’s 753 entities out of more than 18,000. To put that in perspective, the small Victorian Seaport of Eureka has had at least 5 officer involved killings since 2007, the latest being Tommy McClain who was gunned down in his own front yard with an unloaded bb pistol allegedly in his waist band. Eureka doesn’t report those killings to the Department of Justice for statistical purposes.

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Could the real number of killings by police nationwide be in the tens of thousands? Absolutely, and read this article to find out why:

WSJ – WASHINGTON—When 24-year-old Albert Jermaine Payton wielded a knife in front of the police in this city’s southeast corner, officers opened fire and killed him.

Yet according to national statistics intended to track police killings, Mr. Payton’s death in August 2012 never happened. It is one of hundreds of homicides by law-enforcement agencies between 2007 and 2012 that aren’t included in records kept by the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

A Wall Street Journal analysis of the latest data from 105 of the country’s largest police agencies found more than 550 police killings during those years were missing from the national tally or, in a few dozen cases, not attributed to the agency involved. The result: It is nearly impossible to determine how many people are killed by the police each year.

Public demands for transparency on such killings have increased since the August shooting death of 18-year-old Michael Brown by police in Ferguson, Mo. The Ferguson Police Department has reported to the FBI one justifiable homicide by police between 1976 and 2012.

Law-enforcement experts long have lamented the lack of information about killings by police. “When cops are killed, there is a very careful account and there’s a national database,” said Jeffrey Fagan, a law professor at Columbia University. “Why not the other side of the ledger?”

Police can use data about killings to improve tactics, particularly when dealing with people who are mentally ill, said Paco Balderrama, a spokesman for the Oklahoma City Police Department. “It’s great to recognize that, because 30 years ago we used to not do that. We used to just show up and handle the situation.”

Three sources of information about deaths caused by police—the FBI numbers, figures from the Centers for Disease Control and data at the Bureau of Justice Statistics—differ from one another widely in any given year or state, according to a 2012 report by David Klinger, a criminologist with the University of Missouri-St. Louis and a onetime police officer.

To analyze the accuracy of the FBI data, the Journal requested internal records on killings by officers from the nation’s 110 largest police departments. One-hundred-five of them provided figures.

Those internal figures show at least 1,800 police killings in those 105 departments between 2007 and 2012, about 45% more than the FBI’s tally for justifiable homicides in those departments’ jurisdictions, which was 1,242, according to the Journal’s analysis. Nearly all police killings are deemed by the departments or other authorities to be justifiable.

The full national scope of the under-reporting can’t be quantified. In the period analyzed by the Journal, 753 police entities reported about 2,400 killings by police. The large majority of the nation’s roughly 18,000 law-enforcement agencies didn’t report any.

“Does the FBI know every agency in the U.S. that could report but has chosen not to? The answer is no,” said Alexia Cooper, a statistician with the Bureau of Justice Statistics who studies the FBI’s data. “What we know is that some places have chosen not to report these, for whatever reason.”

FBI spokesman Stephen G. Fischer said the agency uses “established statistical methodologies and norms” when reviewing data submitted by agencies. FBI staffers check the information, then ask agencies “to correct or verify questionable data,” he said.

The reports to the FBI are part of its uniform crime reporting program. Local law-enforcement agencies aren’t required to participate. Some localities turn over crime statistics, but not detailed records describing each homicide, which is the only way particular kinds of killings, including those by police, are tracked by the FBI. The records, which are supposed to document every homicide, are sent from local police agencies to state reporting bodies, which forward the data to the FBI.

The Journal’s analysis identified several holes in the FBI data.

Justifiable police homicides from 35 of the 105 large agencies contacted by the Journal didn’t appear in the FBI records at all. Some agencies said they didn’t view justifiable homicides by law-enforcement officers as events that should be reported. The Fairfax County Police Department in Virginia, for example, said it didn’t consider such cases to be an “actual offense,” and thus doesn’t report them to the FBI.

For 28 of the remaining 70 agencies, the FBI was missing records of police killings in at least one year. Two departments said their officers didn’t kill anyone during the period analyzed by the Journal.

About a dozen agencies said their police-homicides tallies didn’t match the FBI’s because of a quirk in the reporting requirements: Incidents are supposed to be reported by the jurisdiction where the event occurred, even if the officer involved was from elsewhere. For example, the California Highway Patrol said there were 16 instances in which one of its officers killed someone in a city or other local jurisdiction responsible for reporting the death to the FBI. In some instances reviewed by the Journal, an agency believed its officers’ justifiable homicides had been reported by other departments, but they hadn’t.

Also missing from the FBI data are killings involving federal officers.

Police in Washington, D.C., didn’t report to the FBI details about any homicides for an entire decade beginning with 1998—the year the Washington Post found the city had one of the highest rates of officer-involved killings in the country. In 2011, the agency reported five killings by police. In 2012, the year Mr. Payton was killed, there are again no records on homicides from the agency.

D.C. Metropolitan Police Chief Cathy Lanier said she doesn’t know why the agency stopped reporting the numbers in 1998. “I wasn’t the chief and had no role in decision making” back then, said Ms. Lanier, who was a captain at the time. When she took over in 2007, she said, reporting the statistics “was a nightmare and a very tedious process.”

Ms. Lanier said her agency resumed its reports in 2009. In 2012, the agency turned over the detailed homicide records, she said, but the data had an error in it and was rejected by the FBI. She referred questions about why the department stopped reporting homicides in 1998 to former Chief Charles H. Ramsey, now head of the Philadelphia Police Department. Mr. Ramsey declined to comment.

In recent years, police departments have tried to rely more on statistics to develop better tactics. “You want to get the data right,” said Mike McCabe, the undersheriff of the Oakland County Sheriff’s Office in Michigan. It is “really important in terms of how you deploy your resources.”

A total of 100 agencies provided the Journal with numbers of people killed by police each year from 2007 through 2012; five more provided statistics for some years. Several, including the police departments in New York City, Los Angeles, Philadelphia and Austin, Texas, post detailed use-of-force reports online.

Five of the 110 agencies the Journal contacted, including the Michigan State Police, didn’t provide internal figures. A spokeswoman for the Michigan State Police said the agency had records of police shootings, but “not in tally form.”

Big increases in the numbers of officer-involved killings can be a red flag about problems inside a police department, said Mike White, a criminologist at Arizona State University. “Sometimes that can be tied to poor leadership and problems with accountability,” he said.

The FBI has almost no records of police shootings from departments in three of the most populous states in the country—Florida, New York and Illinois.

In Florida, available reports from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement don’t conform to FBI requirements and haven’t been included in the national tally since 1996. A spokeswoman for the state agency said in an email that Florida was “unable” to meet the FBI’s reporting requirements because its tracking software was outdated.

New York revamped its reporting system in 2002 and 2006, but isn’t able to track information about justifiable police homicides, said a spokeswoman for the New York State Division of Criminal Justice Services. She said the agency was “looking to modify our technology so we can reflect these numbers.”

In 1987, a commission created by then-Governor Mario Cuomo to investigate abuse of force by police found that New York’s reports to the FBI were “inadequate and incomplete,” and urged reforms to “hold government accountable for the use of force.” The spokeswoman for the state criminal-justice agency said it isn’t clear what the agency did in response back then.

Illinois only began reporting crime statistics to the FBI in 2010 and hasn’t phased in the detailed homicide reports. “We cannot begin adding additional pieces because we are newcomers to the federal program,” said Terri Hickman, director of the Illinois State Police’s crime-reporting program. Two agencies in Illinois deliver data to the FBI: Chicago and Rockford.

In Washington, D.C., councilman Tommy Wells held two hearings this fall on police oversight. He said he was surprised that the department hadn’t reported details of police killings to the FBI. “That should not be a challenge,” he said.

More than two years after the knife-carrying Mr. Payton was shot and killed by D.C. police, his mother, who witnessed the killing, said she is still looking for answers. Helena Payton, 59, said her son had many interactions with local police because of what she said was his mental illness. “All the cops in the Seventh District knew him, just about,” she said.

The officers who arrived that Friday afternoon in August, in response to a call from Mr. Payton’s girlfriend, had never dealt with her son, she said. According to Ms. Payton, her son walked outside holding a small utility knife. As he approached the officers, they fired dozens of bullets at him, she said. He died soon after.

The U.S. attorney’s office is reviewing the incident, as is customary in all police shootings in Washington. A spokesman for the office declined to comment on the status of the case. The Washington police department, citing the continuing investigation, declined to provide the officers’ names, a narrative of what happened, or basic information usually included in the reports to the FBI, such as the number of officers involved in the shooting.

The officers involved are back on duty, according to D.C. authorities, but the case isn’t closed.

Rob Barry and Coulter Jones at WSJ







9 thoughts on “Police shootings! What are the FBI statistics? Oops!

  1. and what is missing in your report is that almost twice as many whites have been killed by police then blacks. With all the rioting about so called racism i would think that stat would have been very important in this post.


    • As of the 2010 census, about 72% of Americans classified themselves as “white” while about 13% classified themselves as “African-American” aka “black.” So it’s not exactly surprising that more “white” people are killed by police. Assuming your statistic of a 2:1 ratio is correct, there’s still a huge racial disparity because based on the proportions of “black” and “white” people in America, all things being equal one would expect a ratio of nearly 7:1.

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    • calling out:

      Nice fancy footwork with the statistics (see “sparky’s” answer).

      Personally, I’m just concerned that we have no idea how many people are being killed by our police… let alone how many of those deaths were justified or not justified.

      The more this situation goes on… the more deaths there will be since it’s hard to cooperate with an authority of which one is scared to death.

      It also means more police deaths… as criminals may think they might as well go out in a blaze of glory.

      No one is the winner here.

      As for Tommy McClain… his main sin was he was at the bottom of the social pyramid (like many black victims of police shootings).

      When dealing from the middle of the social pyramid with those at the bottom the thinking becomes more “us vs. them”; with the tragic consequences seen here. Officer Linfoot did not shoot one of “us”… he shot one of “them”.

      I have to seriously doubt if the killing would have happened in a “nicer neighborhood” in similar circumstances. Certainly the fall out would have been quite different.

      I’d like to point out a change in a norm that illustrates our problem.

      Once upon a time a police officer was expected to know how to shoot and one or maybe two bullets in a shooting would suffice. Now the line police officer is trained to empty his/her weapon into a “target” whether that “target” is down or not.

      The first way demonstrated the responsible respect of the power of a fire arm. The other demonstrates the official policy that collateral damage does not matter as long as the perceived threat to a police officer is adequately managed.


  2. Calling out -is half true.i found this piece informative .
    “Over the span of more than a decade, 2,151 whites died by being shot by police compared to 1,130 blacks. In that respect, Medved is correct.

    However, Brian Forst, a professor in the Department of Justice, Law and Criminology at American University, said this difference is predictable.

    “More whites are killed by the police than blacks primarily because whites outnumber blacks in the general population by more than five to one,” Forst said. The country is about 63 percent white and 12 percent black.

    Rather than comparing the raw numbers, you can look at the likelihood that a person will die due to “legal intervention” in the same way you might look at the chance a person will die in a car accident or a disease like lung cancer. When you do that, the numbers flip.
    A 2002 study in the American Journal of Public Health found that the death rate due to legal intervention was more than three times higher for blacks than for whites in the period from 1988 to 1997.

    That is not the final story though. There are different theories as to why the black rate is so much higher.

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  3. That kid Tommy was shot like a dog. Who believes he would be reachen for a empty BB gun anyway i mean REALY.
    That’s the only excuse the officers can come up this. If LINFOOT is that much of a bitch then no wonder he is a lier


  4. Yep. If the killing is “justified” it doesnt count.
    And if you are a black man or boy under 25 years of age, you are 21 times more likely to be killed by a police than if you are white.
    This needs to change. ANYONE who kills another person needs to be held to account. ANY TIME a person is killed by a police there needs to be an investigation by an OUTSIDE agency.
    The police cannot be trusted to investigate themselves. We know this, yet it is allowed to continue. Board of supervisors, you can change this by making a decision. But I forgot, it takes 10 years and 2 or 3 elections to get ANYTHING done in this county.

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  5. Wow, thank you again Tuluwat for picking up the ball and running with it!

    We almost never see this kind of relevant reporting in Eureka. If we did, residents might be more inclined to turn their frustration into local action. Nationwide, it would motivate broader societal changes in the public’s interest.

    For example, not one media source has reported last July’s Grand Jury Final Report, (the sole exception is the jail’s midnight release program). Shockingly, the GJ reports that Eureka and Humboldt County law enforcement do not require training in handling distressed children and teens, yet, they are the first respondents. How does repeated public handcuffing and solitary “observation” impact a child’s PTSD from poverty, homelessness, drug abuse, or suicidal intent? (A policy deemed to be torture by the U.N.).

    When an issue is reported and followed-up often enough, (like media used to do), the truth motivates action.

    We can take our frustration over the outrageous national blindfold for police-shootings and start making demands to, at least, keep detailed account of the local killings.

    Further, how on Earth is a community supposed to gauge local problems, advocate for meaningful goals, determine what works and what doesn’t, or develop a consensus on our greatest weaknesses, realign priorities, understand funding requirements, if none of our plethora of child-advocate organizations are keeping public records of statistical data, the # of annual client intakes, and the success ratios of current services?

    We do have local statistics on the record # of emergency room, jail, and mental health admissions, also unreported, with each one emphasizing the critical absence of basic public information on prevention.

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  6. well done TE, excellent comments and thanks to re:pete for the article, good catch.

    And somewhere between the Medved facticle and the very angry black people has got to be some recognition that the shooting of poor whites like Tommy McClain and the killings of far too many mentally challenged people of all colors is a widespread class AND race struggle. Recognition of the class warfare element does not diminish the obvious race based statistics, even in this now exposed scam by police and the FBI. Notice the FBI hasn’t been doing much to these agencies for whom this is such a burden, haha not, and just too much desk work…riiightt.
    The race baiting to enhance and divide us is what we get instead.
    The white and black working classes getting together is about the scariest thing imaginable for the PTB.

    Good stuff, thanks again.

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  7. Hey TE, here’s a better link, the one you posted wants a subscription, this one is their online version..but you have to Pay The Man:

    *search for the article on google

    *look for the WSJ online article….get the link, the second one down for me, that references the online article, it somehow produces the same link that wants a subs. copy but this way gets the whole article without the subs.
    Paste that and you then again get the subs. partial page nag. tricky, but why allow google ton index the online without the sub nag and go to whatever trouble they did to…ahh, never mind, anyway…..that’s how I got the full online article.
    So there.

    Thanks again..

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