Chief Mills responds

Chief Mills directly answers some of the issues we raised in yesterdays post

https://tuluwatexaminer.wordpress.com/2014/12/01/it-cant-happen-in-our-part-of-town/

Chief Andy Mills was on KINS Talkshop yesterday. As usual, he threw out his “pope like” pearls of wisdom to the uninformed masses. For instance, he spoke about the murder on 15th and Williams of the young Casey Campbell that his department has kept so very “hush-hush”. If you remember, he told the Lost Coast Outpost, “We don’t know if it’s justified or not justified. All we know is that a man is dead…”

http://lostcoastoutpost.com/2014/nov/15/homicide-eureka-morning/

15th and williams

Well last night he clarified things. He said that Mr. Campbell was shot in the back. (Well Andy, we think that kinda rules out a justified shooting.) He went on to warn the citizens of Eureka that, “You don’t sell drugs.   You don’t visit prostitutes. You don’t do things that can get you into trouble and….you don’t wind up being a victim of a violent crime”. (So the victim must have deserved it then, right Chief Mills?)

On top of that Mills made some pretty dire warnings to folks who question government locally. He spoke about “Sovereign Citizens” and “Anarchists” potentially carrying out attacks here locally against cops. He brought the military mindset of EPD into light. He said, ‘I think that there is a strong culture, nationwide, that is; “Don’t tell me what to do, I’m gonna’ live how I want to live.” And there are consequences (like being killed by the police?).”

He must have been referring to the shooting death of Tommy McClain, who had the audacity to tell Sgt. Stephens that he (the police) didn’t have the right to search him! Wrong…..

It was clear from the interview that he was giving a warning to Eureka Citizens and the local blogosphere. He talked about how the Ferguson Police Department should have gotten “in front” of the social media to tell their story (propaganda). He mentioned the police killings in New York, Ferguson and Chicago, telling Mr. Papstein that the “there has been much more violence” toward the police this year then anytime in the past. Chief Mills made it clear that he believed that things were getting worse with the relationship between communities and their police. (gee whiz Andy, ya think?)

Chief Mill’s mindset should scare you, and represents the all too common separation between citizens and their chosen “Peace Officers”.

Maybe, with the new progressive majority on the Eureka City Council, Chief Mills can be reined in, and we can have a truly responsive police department in Eureka. Probably a pipe dream…….

 

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42 thoughts on “Chief Mills responds

  1. So, oh wise one, are you saying when there was a brawl outside in the street of my residence none of us awakened by it should have called the cops to put an end to it; or, when in broad daylight a guy after getting angry with with tenants stabs the female tenant he is almost three times her size and breaks a bottle on the side of her boyfriend’s face tearing a gaping hole on the side of his cheek just above his eye down below it we neighbors should just stick our heads in the sand and do nothing?

    Your great wisdom is pathetic. Thugs and bullies don’t like civility and tend to care very little for the rights of others, the general public or those courageous enough to call the cops to end their petty reigns of terror.

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    • Michael:

      You evidently did not read the same article I read. I’m tempted to ask you to cite your sources.

      Nowhere in this article is the suggestion (on the part of the TE, anyway) the EPD should just get out of town and let the citizenry roll as they like.

      The problem under discussion is that the EPD mind-set causes difficulties that quite frankly the City of Eureka does not need.

      When a police force moves ideologically out of town and into an “Us vs. Them” attitude… everybody is screwed. That includes your friends being beaten with bottles and stabbed with knives.

      That also includes the line officer on the street.

      When a police force is antagonistic to it’s own community it can not be any fun for a police officer to go to work (except for the scary few who enjoy this sort of thing).

      I’ve said this before but I guess I need to say it again… there are police forces in this county that don’t have a problem with their own communities… they are a part of their communities.

      It does not need to be the way it is for the EPD.

      EPD (or at least Chief Mills) chooses not to be a part of the Eureka community. And why not? Chief Mills is smart and lives in Arcata.

      Do you get it now, Michael?

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    • Tell me something Michael What are you going to do? If the EP officer shoots and kills you son, daughter,dad,brother,
      And its come out it was just a mistake. Tell me what are you going to do???????

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  2. its time we take back our streets and give them what they want…war! screw the tweekers and the cops, protect whats yours and keep your family safe.

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    • Tell me something Puffntuff
      What are you going to do? If the EP officer shoots and kills you son, daughter,dad,brother,
      And its come out it was just a mistake. Tell me what are you going to do???????

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  3. I wish I could say that Mills attitude surprises me, but it doesn’t. His attitude and actions have made it clear that he is in town to serve a minority of moneyed interests.

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    • Tell me something JP
      What are you going to do? If the EP officer shoots and kills you son, daughter,dad,brother,
      And its come out it was just a mistake. Tell me what are you going to do???????

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  4. Look forward to hearing this interview.

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    • Tell me something Liberal Jon
      What are you going to do? If the EP officer shoots and kills you son, daughter,dad,brother,
      And its come out it was just a mistake. Tell me what are you going to do???????

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  5. Mola, your bark is all it is, just bark bark bark!

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    • I thought Mola’s response to your one dimensional rant was quite honorable. I’m not sure who you were calling pathetic in your rude comment, but you might want to put your “projection” in check. I side with Mola on this issue.

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    • so was that you that left the comment about one of Mola’s dogs?

      ..because that is pretty close to being almost an ‘outing’ and by extension a threat, that you have read the one place he mentioned his dogs, and that says you read it and think you can maybe intimidate him and his very good analyses that he shares here.

      Or maybe you’re his good friend…I know I am.

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  6. I can see Kim Starr and her ilk behind the latest anti-EPD fiasco.

    Must be the angry people at 1140 E Street typing their frustrations out again.

    The only thing that scares me on this pathetic joke of a blog is the vitriolic words of the underbelly of society.

    How long until my latest post is censored, comrade?

    Yours In Solidarity,

    JT

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    • “How long until my latest post is censored, comrade?”

      So far, so good.

      I think you’ll find the TE to be a heck of a lot more tolerant than the folks (such as yourself) braying about the lack of tolerance exercised toward themselves.

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    • “How long until my latest post is censored, comrade?” The crazy right is alive and well in Humboldt. Thank you JT, you’ve helped me to realize that my meaningless statements still get through to someone, even if it’s just you 🙂

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  7. Wow, thank you Tuluwat for filling a gaping void of information, perspective, and proportion in this community.

    What Mills actually fears is probably the modest reforms that result when thousands of people start showing up to protest, as in Ferguson and elsewhere. Securing a citizen’s police review board is a reform that all the military equipment city police are stockpiling is useless against.

    Imagine the local dread and the fear for such a fundamental reform already familiar and effective in so many cities. The possibility of being held accountable is not merely a deterrent for criminals and is welcomed by honest police worldwide.

    Unless we show up at city hall we can’t expect any city council to pass anything remotely progressive despite common sense. Maybe we should begin by demanding a return of “To Serve and Protect” on Eureka’s police vehicles?

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    • “To Serve and Protect” wouldn’t that take some additional training. (cough..snark)

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    • Tell me something Anonymous
      What are you going to do? If the EP officer shoots and kills you son, daughter,dad,brother,
      And its come out it was just a mistake. Tell me what are you going to do???????

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  8. The issues that have thrown Ferguson into turmoil have been seething just below the surface in Eureka for a number of years now. I have watch Eureka go through five police chiefs in twenty four years. This last one seems either tone deaf to the needs of the community, or never served in a community like Eureka. Right now it looks like he is preaching to the NO HOPE CHURCH and the congregation is smiling and nodding. Watch out Eureka because you are close to having a Ferguson moment.

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    • Tell me sonething Watchman
      What are you going to do? If the EP officer shoots and kills you son, daughter,dad,brother,
      And its come out it was just a mistake. Tell me what are you going to do???????

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  9. Johnny, just more bark, bark, bark, bark.

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  10. Typical TULA-TWAT rhetoric complaining about the police, the supes, the council, and anyone else that doesn’t agree with their leftist socialist attitudes. I do find it quite humorous though that living breathing upright erect homo sapiens can be this stupid.

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  11. I love and appreciate this lefty, liberal and actually pretty restrained commentary. I read it. I comment on it. It seems to me to be a valuable voice.
    Thanks TE, for doing what you do.

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    • Tell me something another guy
      What are you going to do? If the EP officer shoots and kills you son, daughter,dad,brother,
      And its come out it was just a mistake. Tell me what are you going to do???????

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  12. Tell me something.
    ANONYMOUS/ JOHNNY MANIAC
    ANOTHER GUY/MICHAEL / DENNIS/ MOLA42/
    LEE CHAPPELLE/ REPETE/ JP
    1 OF MOLAS DOGS/ PUFFnTUFF
    WATCHMAN
    ………………..
    What are you going to do? If the EP officer shoots and kills you son, daughter,dad,brother,
    And its come out it was just a mistake. Tell me what are you going to do???????

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  13. I hope those remarks were just cause Chief Mills was on KINS and thought he ‘had to’ provide red meat…but dam, that is just very sad.
    I have been a hopeful Mills supporter for a while and hopeful, but those remarks almost sounds like he is salting the mine with comments to justify a more serious and harsher crackdown instead of any community defusing..this almost sounds like he wants a rumble.

    Maybe he does, a good insurrection squashed would certainly get him back to the Big Leagues.

    Sovereign Citizens..Anarchists…how could he miss the Black Bloc..another anonymous group that always seem to be making any public protest violent, gee, what a surprise they are anonymous when they do such things. ..And ‘could attack the police’!?!?…geezus, yeah, so could my Fairy Godmother materialize and start smacking him around, maybe dust him with Ebola she got from some Mexican Jihadis that tunneled under the border with their Obummer Phones.

    Bigfoot’s gonna get ya Andy!! be askeered!..he’s probably pushing a shopping carts full of trash and cans while riding his free ObamaBike.

    It COULD HAPPEN!!! IT COULD!!!!!

    No one has made any serious suggestion to attack or fight with the police, such alarming blather on anonymous blogs is actually more likely to be police provocateurs instead of mad citizens. I’d actually suggest local blog owners attempt to keep track of such commentors IP addresses, it might very well be very illuminating.

    As for the EPD career line officers trying to just do their real policing jobs in this fracked up environment, good luck, we’re trying to fix it. You deserve better department leadership, so do we citizens.

    Any more talk like that fear mongering shit stirring nonsense from him and I join the parade demanding him OUT, and a Police Citizen’s Review Board.

    And we don’t need any city authorization to set that up either….

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    • Tell me something Yogi Beara
      What are you going to do? If the EP officer shoots and kills you son, daughter,dad,brother,
      And its come out it was just a mistake. Tell me what are you going to do???????

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  14. I find it a bit curious that the folks doing the ragging on today’s article have yet to offer one concrete objection to what has been said here today.

    According to the haters we’re stupid Tula-Twats and God knows what else. Fine… You don’t like us. You established that a long time ago. Move on to something a bit more fresh.

    But how intelligent do you need to be to call another person “stupid” when you don’t even bother to point out what stupid thing was said in the first place? Even not very bright three-year-old’s can do that.

    As to the “bark bark bark” stuff… that’s… just plain strange.

    If you object to anything (or everything) said here… fine. Tell us what you think are the errors of our ways and we can take it from there.

    You know… dialog… like adults and everything.

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    • Tell me something MOLA42
      What are you going to do? If the EP officer shoots and kills you son, daughter,dad,brother,
      And its come out it was just a mistake. Tell me what are you going to do???????

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    • Gypsywp:

      Honestly… I don’t know. Use the tools of due process available to me I guess.

      Since you’ve asked the question a few times already… what would YOU do?

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    • I’ll tell you what I would do. Fight for our rights. We the people have rights The police are given the Authority to protect us from harm. Now there abusing that authority, And shooting people with out just cause.
      And it’s only when someone tries to speek out against them and takes a stand. We find out our civil rights have been taken from us to,!!!!!!

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    • anonymous 8:46:

      It is if one is a fascist (one’s viewpoint always depends on where one chooses to stand).

      “Protect my stuff, keep the bad people away from me and you can do whatever you want.”

      To them, security is far more important than freedom. They will gladly sell all of the one to procure a little bit more of the other.

      History shows this to be a really bad idea.

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  15. Of course Cheif Mills isn’t taken responsibility for his officer shooting that kid Tommy. He is not concerned about the people in his city.
    His concern is to make his officers look like they are the victims. Justified shooting. Come on realy’ Linfoot (the killer cop) turned in to a pressure case when HE CONFRONTED that kid Tommy. Shot him in two seconds
    Didn’t even take the time to fine out his name
    (YOU ARE A COWARD LINFOOT)
    And then come up with the weakest excuse ever grabed for a unloaded BB gun
    When you had the opportunity to do some real cop work, you folded like a bitch and took out some innocent kid standing in his own yard
    Oh ya “you were afraide if the men in the blue truck came back there would be a armed confrontation and that is a cops moral responsibility”. BLA BLA BLA
    If it’s a cops moral responsibility “”””” then how come you didn’t respond at that moment when SUPPOSEDLY Tommy was arguing with the guy in the blue truck
    O ya your a COWARD.
    If a cops duty is to stop- intervene when they see someone that is considered a threat. Then why were you officers still hiding in the graveyard in the dark.?
    Tommy could have shot that guy
    He was doing a safety check , tapping of the wrist (quote)
    You cops are bold face liers or sociopaths ether one. WHAT HAPPEN TO TOMMY WAS STRAIGHT !!!!!!! WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!!!!!!

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